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Hey everyone, today we’ll be going into detail on the hull protection of the new Abrams models, armed with scales, a ruler, and all the available data we have.
We’ll start with clarifying the data we used to create the version of the tank we have in game. We know the hull armor of the Abrams is a topic of heated debate, so we want to be as thorough as possible.
Very briefly, our conclusion is that there is evidence to suggest that changes were made to the frontal armor of the hull, so let’s get started!
The Hull Front: Projects, Myths, and Facts
Any serious improvement in protection always leads to an increase in the component’s weight and/or a change in its dimensions. For example, the switch to depleted uranium increased the weight of the M1A1 turret by 2.5 tons, while the M1A2 SEP V3 turret weighs over 4 tons more than the M1A2 turret. Back in the 90s, engineers understood that the hull protection of the Abrams was not keeping pace with the development of anti-armor weapons. This gave rise to projects such as the M1A3 Abrams with altered geometry and increased external dimensions (this is not referring to the modern Abrams currently undergoing trials, which will likely receive the M1A3 designation). Those blueprints remained as blueprints however, they were never built in metal, because doing so would have required a complete redesign of the front section of the vehicle.
Rickard O. Lindström, Test Rig ACERS T90-1 during Ballistic Trials, photograph, Projekt Stridsvagn Ny Archive, www.ointres.se/strv_ny-16.jpg
In the years that followed the Abrams’ introduction to the game, debates over its hull reinforcement repeatedly came up. The document regarding uranium inserts on prototypes at tank training facilities was cited routinely, and hypotheses were put forward regarding other methods of armor enhancement. In each instance however, no confirmation of these claims could be reasonably ascertained. Although, in photographs of the SEP V3 hull, we can clearly see a new weld seam in the frontal armor package area. No such seam existed here on the SEP V2 and earlier variants. This is one of the few direct pieces of evidence that some work was carried out on the hull armor package.
Source: IMPACT OF LOADING DISTRIBUTION OF ABRAMS SUSPENSION ON TRACK PERFORMANCE AND DURABILITY
On the Scales
Changes in weight across various Abrams variants. Source: An Independent Assessment of the 2040 Battlefield and its Implications for the 5th Generation Combat Vehicle (5GCV), Department of the Army Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Army, 2023
Weight placard data for the turrets of certain variants. Source: IMPACT OF LOADING DISTRIBUTION OF ABRAMS SUSPENSION ON TRACK PERFORMANCE AND DURABILITY
This is where things get particularly interesting. When we attempt to assess what exactly has changed internally, we naturally run into the question of weight. The overall weight of the SEP V3 hull increased, but the increase is minimal.
A lot of work was put into cross referencing between all existing sources, but we were unable to identify a reliable, concrete weight difference between the earlier versions and this variant. The issue is not that the data itself is poor, but that the tank itself was constantly changing. Weight was saved in one area while being added in another.
A good example of this is that the transition to heavier torsion bars was accompanied by the replacement of steel road wheel arm brackets with lighter aluminum ones, which partially offset the added weight. The SEP V3 also received massive tow pintle hooks, reinforced brackets for mine protection, and new APU armor, all of which increased the weight. It is extremely difficult to come to an accurate estimate of the change in hull weight in general, and even harder to conclude anything reliably in relation to the armor package itself. In this regard it’s always important to keep in mind that not everything with weight inside a tank is armor.
Looking at the combat weight data compiled for various Abrams variants and the weight of their turrets, the estimated change in hull weight is roughly 500 kilograms. Within the fixed finite dimensions of the hull front and working with such a limited weight budget, it is impossible to achieve a tangible increase in protection to a degree where modern kinetic weapons would be negated.
In order to protect the hull from APFSDS rounds that emerged after the mid-1980s (while retaining the same hull geometry, which is a fixed restraint), the entire available space would have to be filled with thick steel plates or other heavy fill materials. This can be calculated, and a package would have added no less than 2 tonnes, and no such increase is present.
Front Torsion Bars
Here we run into another important factor, the load on the front suspension. On the Abrams, the armor package and fuel tanks are positioned far forward, and all of that mass is putting pressure on the first pair of torsion bars. On other contemporary tanks, a comparable load is distributed across two pairs of road wheels, in this case however, it’s not. Adding several tonnes of weight in this area critically reduces the service life of the first road wheels, torsion bars, swing arms, and other components of the suspension structure. For such an alteration to be logistically possible, engineers would have to redesign the entire suspension system, and provably no redesign was undertaken.
Weight Budget
Based on the Army Science Board report, the baseline SEP V3 without any additional modules weighs 66.76 tonnes. This figure is our starting point. Based on the above, we can model an improvement to the hull armor package within the bounds of this confirmed weight increase. The new weld seam indicates that some form of work was carried out on the hull armor package. As the exact particulars of this work are not defined, the only assumption we can make is that the modifications made to the armor package must have been made within the specified weight budget, and within that budget, protection against modern kinetic energy penetrators is unachievable.
The main focal point here is that while improvements against kinetic rounds could have been made in theory, the provable constraints of the space would mean that even though protection could be improved, it would be impossible to improve it to the extent that the armor would be able to defeat rounds it previously couldn’t within typical engagement ranges. Therefore, spending the extra weight budget on this kind of protection, while possible, would not lead to any tangible improvement to justify the alteration. Any alterations to the armor have to be logistically and functionally justifiable. Because of this, it is much more likely that any potential improvement in protection would be geared more towards defeating shaped charge (HEAT) threats, which in real life have been the primary threat to tanks over the past 40 years, in which improvement would be tangible within the constraints. As with all armor geared towards protection form HEAT, it does offer a marginal protection increase against modern kinetic rounds as well, but this will naturally be fairly minimal.
Conclusion
There is no confirmed data on the specific hull armor properties of the M1A2 SEP V3, the only thing that’s provable is that some modification was made to the armor array in the frontal hull. The hull armor of the SEP V3 will be strengthened in game, in relation to the only reasonable assumption we’re able to make based on the known change in weight. In the game, the tank’s hull will be better protected when compared to previous variants of the Abrams. This improvement is in line with what the engineers would be able to achieve without redesigning the entire vehicle from scratch.
In addition, and perhaps more importantly, we are currently working on the hull and turret armor of all tanks in the Abrams family. Part of this work includes converting sections of the armor to the volumetric model, which will improve survivability universally. This improves protection around the upper hull area and the turret ring, which we consider to be more impactful in game than the lower plate itself.









Comments (38)
Comments will be premoderatedOne thing that should be noted is that composite armor improvement does not necessarily require significant weight growth, especially for the relatively small volume of the Abrams hull. Various documents show that the US Army kept developing high-performance armor with trivial or even no weight growth, such as the FY94 armor with 25% improvement against KE, the 1995 TCA armor with 33% improvement, and the NEA that is "lighter and better in protection"
We also know that Abrams has had armor package changes over time, just like T-72s and their turret cheeks, it is possible to change the armor composition. To think that a 1980s Abrams has the same composite armor or composition of armor is asking a lot for the reader to believe.
Yes, but we have evidence of the existence and performance of FY94 and TCA. Do we have any evidence of the existence and performance of what they put in the SEPv3?
So you claim M1, that started production in 1970-s has the exact same hull armor as M1A2 Sepv3 from late 2010-s. And even if we accept your claim, you are implying that the americans didn't change the hull armor of the Abrams to stop Soviet shells that they had acess to in the range to test becuase: a) They can be penetrated by 3BM42 and later, and Americans are just retarded b) the hull armor can stop the shell in most places so there was no need to chage it. but in game this is not the ...
Since the article states 'not all things with weight are armour', isn't it possible that there are weight savings made in modules and other equipment (like lighter road wheels to offset heavier torsion bars), that could mean the weight budget actually is higher than only the ~500kg that the SEP V3 is heavier than the SEP V2?
I congratulate the team on their in-depth armor analysis. However, this doesn't reflect reality. This is clearly visible in simple comparisons. Ambrams can survive various ATGMs and missiles -> public tests, the Iraq War, etc. However, in War Thunder, they are instantly killed by a 30mm cannon from the front. On the other hand, magical Russian armor is cheaper than NATO and, in most experts' opinion, weaker -> the T-90M was destroyed in Ukraine by the cannon of a Bradley armored vehicle.
The t-90 was not penetrated tho, the Bradley took out the optics making the cmdr and gunner blind :)
So you guys state that there is a noticeable new seam on the hull which shows that there has been work done to the plate but since there’s not a big enough weight increase there’s probably no change, have you guys thought of the fact that the could have just changed the elements inside the plate a 1000kg of feathers weights the same as and 1000kg of steel. so using weight would not pick that up. And steel and feathers have very different characteristics and properties.
did you read ? they are increasing the hull protection anyways
Not a single mention of the Next Generation Armor Package :)
thanks gaijin giving us a clear view i want to see more like this "How and Why" topic
So developers believe, that hull armor was not upgraded since the original M1? Quite interesting.
look the problem with that is even if you dont see, you can change internaly the protection just compare the maus to the kpz70 25 years of difference and massive upgrades, i can't see why not the armor of the abrams isnt better over 40 years of service, or even an increase in protection, i just cant see why the just put better armor in the turret, adding 100mm to the hull of KE isnt gonna make the abrams better, they will die by the upper part of the hull, its just gonna be more forgving
This was very cool to read
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